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Wednesday, August 27, 2008

de cat revisited

got my non cat defender downpipes from RJS,finally unpacked em,went to fit on 300 manual with the engine out....and theres no hook for the rubber support half way along.Since theres a fitting on the chassis I would spose that MOT would require it be used and that it needs it anyway.....or is it?

Do I need to weld on a piece oce of bar,quite a big deal for me for various reasons,or what?



Please help (again!) guys



shocksie

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Check Engine Light

Can anybody help me with the Check Engine light? When I turn the key the Check Engine light comes on but then goes off once the engine starts. Is this a bulb check or do I have a problem? Also can anybody recommend a tool for reading fault codes? My Disco is a ’96 300 TDI



I have seen a few references to something called TestBook which I assume is a diagnostics program. Is this available to us or is this a main dealer tool?

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V8i auto box knocking

Disco 1994 3.9 140K. Have just bought this as a weekend car to abuse and scare small animals and badgers :eek: on the lanes in our area as the 2.5TD wasn't loud enough. There is a knocking sound which at first sounds like the big ends but spookily is coming from the auto box. I suspect it is probably the mainshaft but do not have much experience of auto boxes. I have rebuilt gearboxes and engines before so have some technical expertise but unfortunatly don't have the time to undertake the prolonged tinkering that this may require to pin point.



Has anybody else had similar experience and if so what was the solution.



Mike

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Discovery seating issue!

If anyone can point me in the right direction with this query, I'd be over t'moon. I've a Discovery 7-seater Pursuit (2.5 diesel auto) with BLACK CLOTH seating which is a disaster!! It's a disaster because I have 3 grandchildren and 3 hairy dogs. I know, I know...I should have had (and could have had) leather, but that's 4-year history now. I hate seat covers, so that's not an option. I dimly remember someone saying that one could get an upgrade kit to the "ES" spec. Does anyone know about this? The wagon's only got 36k on the clock, and its all paid for so I have no good reason to chop it in - the thing'll probably see me out anyway. So if anyone knows where I can get my hands on leather upholstery, I'd be forever grateful. I have to say that I do not love my Discovery - it's boring, but it does what it's supposed to do perfectly. I want my Defender back!

Grateful for any ideas....I think this is the first time I've EVER posted anything to any forum! Many thanks, newbie seary1.

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ATF Dipstic Levels

First off excuse the daft questions but me disco didnt come with an owners manual nor have i had chance to get meself a haynes yet.



After purchasing me disco a few days ago ive give it a check over oil levels etc etc but reading the atf levels in the auto box is either worrying or im being a dipstick :D ive read somewhere that to check the auto box levels you have to fire it up stick it in 1st then into park so on and so forth then read it on the dipstick, could someone clarify this for me please and tell me the procedure i dont even know if it should be running or not to check this.



If this isnt the case it seems like my auto box is well overfilled and i mean well overfilled fluid level comes several inches up the stick (hence the worrying) as ive just bought it i wonder if the auto box is shagged or on its way out and its just been overfilled so that it works it seems to work ok its nice and smooth through the gears, kicksdown ok, fluid is nice and clean with no particles in it so i dont know???? i dont know sod all about auto's tbh oh and if anyone has a spare owners handbook gathering dust i could give it a loving caring home :)



Cheers

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Auto Sump Leak from Dipstick.

Hi all, sorry for another post so quick but it seems like ive got a leak from the sump where the dipstick tube fits on, 2 garages have told me 2 different things one is that its a washer/o-ring behind the big nut another has said that the brazing on the sump/dipstick tube will have cracked and that the sump will need replacing :eek: which apparently is a land rover only part which im guessing is gona cost me loadsa money.


Does anyone know if its easy enough to weld/rebraze this bit on, im stuffed if im buying a new sump just for that im wondering what it made of tho can it be migged ? or we looking at brass or some other unweldable metals ?

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Monday, August 25, 2008

S*L*U*T*S Autumn Laning And Chips By The Sea

After yesterdays successful recce trip with myself, Dorset Vogue SE, Ratty, Mad Hat Man, Sirus, Drewster, Zan79 and Robint, we have decided to post this planned day out laning the wilds of Dorset.



The idea came about originally as a thankyou to the T*O*S*S*E*R*S for their hospitality the other day at their summer BBQ and has evolved into a general invite and get together for both them and other Landyzone members who are interested.



The date for this trip is Saturday 25th October.


It will be a long(ish) day, so anyone coming a fair distance may wish to come down the Friday evening and have Sunday to get home.



The plan is to meet early morning at the Cartgate Picnic Area on the A303 west of Yeovil and to spend the day winding our way south to the coast, finishing at West Bay for fish & chips. (Not the cheapest but f***, theyre good)



The route is suitable for vehicles with at least All Terrain tyres and consists mainly of old droves and UCRs - some paint scratches are to be expected, it would also be advisable for roofracks to be removed.

(Mad Hat Man reckons even Gaylanders could do this :p )



If it is a fine day, you will be rewarded with some spectacular views - don't forget your camera!



If you are interested, then PM me and/or Dorset Vogue SE.

Numbers will be limited, so this is on a first come first served basis.

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Electric Seat problem

the passenger electric seat isnt working properly. The back rest is fine, the seat tilt is fine, but it wont slide forwards or backwards.



I had a look under and when i try and move the seat, i can hear and see the motor trying to turn, but nothing. It just sort of clicks, and moves(twists on its fixings) slightly as if the output shaft is jammed.



Anyone know why it might be doing this and any solutions.

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Sunday, August 24, 2008

Today at toms farm with pics

Our day at toms today lot of mud and fun















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Thursday, August 21, 2008

Suspension mods????

I have just purchased a 300tdi which I intend to do some mild off roading (fun days & green laneing etc) I also intend to fit some slightly larger M/T tyres and was wondering what suspension mods people would reccomed ie 1", 1.5" or 2" lift (I don't want to affect the steering & on road manners too much or get into having to change prop shafts etc).

I have seen that M&M 4x4 do a suspension kit with no lift but cranked rear trailing arms for better articulation, does anyone have any experience with this kit?

If I were to fit a 1" or 1.5" lift would I still need to fit corrected radius arms?

Also, what if any, are the real world" advantages to bottom mounted dislocation cones Vs top mount dislocation cones?.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2008

300TDi wiring loom

I'm in the middle of removing the engine from my 96 300TDi. It's taking an awful lot longer than I thought as it appears that the wiring loom needs lots of disconnecting.



Both Haynes and Rave state that the engine loom can be detached simply by opening two multiplugs under the dash. However, when I look and trace the wires from the engine bay to the plugs, there seem to be at least 2 other bundles that are not connected to multiplugs.



All the wiring looks standard (it's all in the same covering stuff at any rate) so my question is are the multiplugs noted the only thing that really needs disconnecting (apart from the odd earth, starter motor, etc)?



Cheers

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how do i engage low range?

hi ,had the disco couple of weeks now but tried to get it into low range i have a 300tdi auto is there a procedure i go through to engage low range or is there a fault

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Disco 2003 Electrical prblm

My discovery doesn't drive well in drive 4. I was told on the speedometer diagnoses machine the speed reads 128 when it going 20mph. The dealership has had it twice. They say there is a transmission code coming up. But they have checked for a transmission problem and there is none. They think its an electrical short some where but they have no idea where. Its 200 a hour for them to poke and pry around in it and I don't have that kind of money. Heres the kicker. The inside of the truck got soaked with rain water on May 26th. Both sunroofs and both back windows were down and a thunder storm rolled in and stayed overnight. The problem started the next day when I found the truck almost flooded. Land Rover said there is no water damage, I don't belive them. Please help me. I'm paying a car note and bumming rides, now I'm looking at turning it in and taking a repo against my credit."

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Fuel Leak above fuel tank common fault

Took our Disco 2 TDi out to do some shopping and noticed fuel leaking from the tank. Having looked into it I have been told that this is a common fault as the fuel lines chaff the chassis. I have ordered a new line at the cost of £56 but have also been told by K motors Leyland that it is usually the green line that chaffs and Land Rover are doing a seperate green line at about £10.

I am going to try and change this myself but am new to working on modern cars been too used to working on my cortinas lol but just wondering if anybody near the Fleetwood area can offer a helping hand just to make sure I do it right as I can imagine these toys are expensive if you get things wrong? I will pay for your time if you offer to help



Thanks in advance

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Wheel Bearings

Got a rumbling loose wheel bearing on my 300.

New ones are on their way...



Can someone have a word with the big man and make sure it dont rain tomorrow night?

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Friday, August 15, 2008

front passenger actuator

Hi,



Central locking working. however when told to lock the front passenger door makes a lovely grinding sound.



stripped off the door card etc, turns out its the actuator. needs replacing obviously, or can i strip it?



seen prices at about 60 quid plus the vat. rather not pay that. anywhere cheaper?



read on here that you might be able to get them at maplins? please clarify.



also fitting. the two wires that go into it, is there a connector inside or something? the wire rund off into the door without a connector in sight , and it seems to go into the actator with no clip/connector whatever.



disco 98, with alarm etc etc.



ta muchly

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Smoking dashboard

Had a nasty surprise the other day in my 300tdi.

what looked like smoke started drifting out from behind the steering wheel. Pulled over fairly quickly, started hunting around and couldn't find anything. It still does it every so often. There is a whiff of hot antifreeze along with it so it's obviously a coolant leak rather than an electrical fault.

Any known faults or do I just start pulling the heater matrix out? Coolant level doesn't seem to be changing much so its only a very slight leak.

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Green laning map>???

Hi all, after lots of searching i cant find that link to the online os maps you can print off. does anyone have the link or the post with the link to those maps. it was on here a few months ago.



cheers - Will

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Anti 4 x 4

OK Folks... I've seen lots of references to the antis... but I am interested to know what the worst encounter anyone has had with them was.



I've been flagged down afetr coming out of alane by someone's house and subjected to a poorly thought out barrage of objections to 4x4s using the perfectly legit lane by his house... and a cyclist hurling abuse during our first outing.... but that's about it.



Any other stories?

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Some ABS info

I was searching for more info on the abs system fitted on my classic, the frustrating Wabco LRC M15, didn't find what I was looking for but did come across this:



http://www.wabco.info/intl/pdf/815/0...43883565 ac82

Might be useful to somebody here.

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Monday, August 11, 2008

Road Tax and Discos

I've just lifted this off the Gov website and it appears to say that for Discos with 225 ppm the important date is march 2006, not 2001 !!!!



Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 (based on fuel type and CO2 emissions)



The rates shown only apply to cars that have been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven. These details are shown on the Registration Certificate.

Petrol car (TC48) and diesel car (TC49)

Band

CO2 emission (g/km) 12 months rate 6 months rate



A Up to 100 Not applicable Not applicable



B 101-120 £35.00 Not applicable



C 121-150 £120.00 £66.00



D 151-165 £145.00 £79.75



E 166-185 £170.00 £93.50



F Over 185 £210.00 £115.50



G Over 225for cars registered on or after 23/03/06 £400.00 £220.00



Sorry, the formatting didn't keep from ther website, but it's address is:

The cost of vehicle tax for cars, motorcycles, light goods vehicles and trade licences : Directgov - Motoring

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Changing gearbox fluid

I thought I remembered seeing a picture thread about changing the gearbox fluid, but I can't find it now. Maybe it was my other car?



Anyway, I have a '96 300tdi with an automatic gearbox. I see the drain plug on the bottom, but don't see a fill plug. Do you just fill through the dipstick? Or am I missing the fill plug?



Thanks

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High Low and Diff Lock

:confused: Hi, I'v recently purchase a 93 Disco and trying to work out how hi low and diff lock work. Is it a H pattern and the right side are hi and low then the left side is diff lock hi low, when i change the lever it doesn't seem to make any changes except diff lock. Can some please explain how it works ?:confused:

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300tdi Sills

Hi all, the time has come to replace my inner and outer sills as my mot:mad: is due next month.ive been putting it off for ages but now have no choice but to do them.Its a rather dawnting task for me as ive never done any sills before.

just wonderd if you guys could give me any tips like the best way to get the old ones off without damaging the floor?

Any info would be very helpfull.:rolleyes:cheers

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Saturday, August 9, 2008

A New Blog Opens

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Just a quick shout to point out that ATI - All things interesting by reccemaster is open over at wordpress HERE.

The blogs about all things that interest that don't fit into the blog list currently managed.


Thursday, August 7, 2008

Green laning with mudplug.

Just come back from a weeks "green laning" in southern France, in Massif central, with Mudplug Mudplug's 4x4 Greenlaning tours and can say without a doubt that nothing in Wales will touch it!

Some of the lanes we went down hadn't been used for over a year (there's 100's of them!) and once or twice "OH SHIT!" was said as we turned a corner and saw what was in front of us. Fortunately we managed everything, possibly due to the dry weather, I'm sure if it had been wet things would have been much different, but also maybe less challenging lanes could be used as there were that many to choose from.

Anyone who wants to try it, I can recommend it.

You stay in a Hostellerie, which is basically a pub/resterant with rooms, and a swimming pool. The food is excellent and plenty of it, although everything is done in French time, ie. whenever everyones ready. (Those who've been to France before will know what I mean!) and the bar is open as long as you're propping it up!

Most of the natives and farmers actually like 4x4's!!! (driven properly of course!) as they keep the lanes open for them.

It is quite expensive, but then again, it's not compared to what you'll spend on other types of holidays.

It cost me about £1350 for 2 of us for the "toure" that's all meals, rooms and green laning (6 nights) plus ferry, plus fuel & tolls.

Unless the rest of the family are all petrol-heads, I don't think it's a family holiday, although there was a family with 2 young children with us, as you are green laning, with not much sight seeing.

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Ideas on Water proof your Electrics

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this question. It was a toss up between this forum and the General Chat one. I just thought that my question may get more exposure here?

I have a 96 Disco which is mainly used as an off-raod plaything. Creature comforts and day to day useability aren't exactly high on my list of prioritys for this vehicle.

A couple of months back I sunk for the first time whilst at a local Pay & Play site, and I mean properly sunk, leaving my interior looking like a car park at Glastonbery.

Since then I have had a lot of welding work done and I am looking at doing something to not only make the interior easier to clean out, but also protect the electrics.

I was thinking of locating the ECU inside of a battery box like this; Standard Battery Boxes | Battery Boxes | Demon Tweeks Motorsport, Motorcycle, Modifying, Parts and Accessories then sealing it up with sealent, in an effort to keep it dry, just incase I do a Titanic impression again.:o

I was thinking of painting the floor with some kind of rubberised safety paint, then putting rubber load bay liner / footwell mats over the top. Could any of you guys reccomend a paint or paint supplier to use? I will also be adding a couple of drain points front and rear, simply by drilling a hole, welding a nut over the hole, then inserting a bolt into it. Is there any easier ways that I could incorporate drain holes into the floor?

But the one think that I am unsure about is how to protect the wiring looms that run along the floor and behind the transmission cover? If any of you chaps could give me some pointers, then it would be appreciated.

And before anyone points out the obvious of not going in deep water to begin with, I have thought of that, but just cant see the fun in not doing so. :D

In advance, many thanks.

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Ho Do I know Its Safe To Drive?

Hi all,

I've been out and about looking for green lanes in my locality between home and work I've found a few I think - but how can I be sure? One of them is sign posted as a "public bridleway" and a few others posted as unsuitable for motors, does this mean all motor or juat cars and jap jeeps (LOL) ?

Is there any way to check so i dont go annoying farmers etc?

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How to (Change a LR Timing Belt)

Supplied by: Jason Crawford; last seen on LandRoverweb

If there was ever a job that was made out to be more than it should be, then this is it. Changing a timing belt on a Defender is pretty much straight forward. Mine had 164,000 on it when I changed it, I know it was done prior to that when it had 114,000 on it. When I removed the old belt it was in remarkably good condition. You'll notice some yellow dots of paint on the pictures, they weren't done by me, but I'll explain them at the end of this page. Here's how I changed the belt:
Read the full guide HERE or Download a PDF


Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Don't forget to get your tickets for the LRO show

The show takes place at The East of England Showground, Peterborough
next to the A1) and the show site is a purpose built showground, with toilets, showers, quality exhibition areas and tarmac roadways.




<click here to see show plan>

Land Rover Jobs - Apprenticeships

Land Rover to create approximately 200 jobs within the UK for those of you that are 16+ years of age.

Take a click over to HERE where you can read up in more detail from the official apprentices website.

No matter what type of automotive career you've set your heart on, we have an apprenticeship that will give you the skills you'll need to make the grade



Apprentice Brochure


Tuesday, August 5, 2008

How to (Prepare your LR for wading)

You must prepare for water - if you don't it will cost...... Question is - Do you know how?

No.... then take a look and read more, click the link bellow and go straight to the advice you need to read.

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How to Fit a safari snorkel to a 200 discovery

How to fit a safari snorkel to a 200 discovery. Step by step guide of what to do with photos! A real life account not just an instruction manual...

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Monday, August 4, 2008

Biodiesel Warranty Issues (US)

What You and Your Dealer Should Know Before Your Car Breaks

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How to (Have your say about new Road tax)

Why not tell the select government commitee what you think of road tax.

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Only in America. Buy a loft, get a free LR

Think the housing bubble burst was bad for you? Job losses at Detroit automakers have hurt housing sales bad enough that in downtown Royal Oak, a suburb of Detroit, they're giving away a free 2-year lease on a Land Rover or free mortgage payments for one year with the purchase of a loft.

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Saturday, August 2, 2008

LR Discovery Common Problems

The Land Rover Discovery is a good vehicle, has impressive off road capabilities and can allow the whole family to all enjoy the trip. There is ample room for the Driver, passenger, the kids and two dogs with enough room to spare to pack a picnic.

It does however have some common niggles; which isn't any different to other vehicles I suppose. On the Discovery they are known to be:

Gear crunch. Usually into either reverse, first or second. Most commonaly this is stated in ebay adds as "starting to niggle into 2nd" shortly followed by "it doesn't bother me, so I've left it". What this probably means is this; 'My synchromesh has started to (or has) worn and as I can't or don't want to pay for the gearbox to be dropped, striped and synch replaced - I just keep crunching the gear hoping that I don't do any more damage'. Having siad that, years ago - nothing had synchro, so we all had to learn to 'drive'. I suppose, today, we simply dip the clutch and expect everything to fly in.

Steering Wobble or shimmy. Your driving along at say 50mph or so, hit a bump in the road (which is unavoidable) and you end up having to juggle with the steering wheel to keep the car straight as she attempts to wobble all over the place. There are a few reasons for this, one of which could be play in the stabalisation bar. Land Rover Club.net has a page that talks more about this HERE.

Rust. The boot floor, rear X members, chassis mounts, rear wheel iner door wells (just inside the 90 bend), the front foot wells and iner wings. Although not as bad as the Range Rover, you still need to get to grips with it, before you end up having a lot of welding work for an MOT.

Boot inspection is either by getting your head under the back end or better still - lifting the rear carpet and cover to inspect the floor. Replacement sills are available at about £60 and should cost around £200 to weld in (unless you can do this yourself). The X member can be beefed up and the front floors can be patched (if caught in time) easily, unless you need a patch in the very front corner of the foot well, then you have access problems with the driver peddles. But its still feasible. The front iner wings are simply after market kits.

The BEST solution is to simply WASH your car after being off road, and try and not let mud 'store' in creases, and areas which can hold water - it will only rot the car in time.

Engine Noise. This can be the tappets or other engine ware issues. But commonly - its either the Vacuum pump (£85 replacement unit), a lift pump (£35) or a blown injector washer. One of the easiest ways to test this is to place one end of a long screw driver on the part being tested, and place your ear on the handle end and listen, You will clearly hear the clicking sound of the part which is faulty. All parts shouldn't take more than an hour to fix.

Smoke. The tdi engines tend to produce smoke if not looked after or sometimes can be traced to a faulty EGR valve sticking open. This later can either be replaced or removed and blanked off (covered soon).

Front seat collapse. The Driver seats usually go first as expected due to the level of use, anlong with the seat wall on the outer side loosing its 'stifness'. There are enough spares around to replace the seat with a new one, but expect this to fail unless you know the miles its done. Otherwise, a repair will be needed.

Electrics. Electric windows usually stick. This fault seams to be split between switches or actuator. The dash clock normally goes 'loopy' or looses bits of its self. The radio can stop working, and if fitted - the CD changer can cause battery drain.

Sunroof leak. Either electric or manual. Two manual setups are seen. Manual lift or crank. All are prone to seal failure resulting in being rained on inside.

Dash curl. The dash on the 300 will at some time start curling up. This is common and can be fixed with a kit for about £50. Its an absolute PIG to fit though.

Now - with all these faults - you might ask WHY OH WHY would anyone own such a vehicle. Simple. Its Brilliant, confitable and pending the niggling faults - pritty reliable. One thing I have found , is that LR's tend to keep going even with faults where other vehicles stop at the first thing going wrong. If you find a LR with everything working and no oil leaks... then It's never been used, probbly still in the dealer or a picture in the catalogue. For the oil leak - there is a saying. If your LR is not leaking - there is no oil in it. lol!